Talk:Patch Tree Template - Revision history

imported>An Adventurer: /* Old Patch Content (Numerous Sections) */

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	For older patch content I'm finding that there are many sections which are no longer used in the current template, but are necessary for archiving content that was previously part of the monthly "package" from Turbine. For an example where I had to make numerous additions, check [[Groundswell]]. That month, there was an update login screen as well as splash page, so that had to be created, also the site that hosted the Teaser images was all on the old Insider page which no longer exists (not even on the internet archives) so the content had to be inserted directly into the page. Also, during those times, each patch had teaser pics for the fansites as well as 4-5 "official" teasers, which there was no section for in the template. I believe that we can use the [[Groundswell]] event as the template for older patch content as I mentioned above, numerous additions had to be made. I was also unable to locate some of the "official" teasers for that month's patch and the 2 I was able to find were being hosted by maggie... I'm not sure if we should take those and host them here at the wiki or not, so I hot linked to the location I found them until a decision can be made. I'd love some feedback on this as I'd like to go through and start the process to archive all the old patch content. (at least in terms of official announcements and teasers). --[[User:Sanguis\|Sanguis]] 15:00, 27 March 2009 (CDT)		For older patch content I'm finding that there are many sections which are no longer used in the current template, but are necessary for archiving content that was previously part of the monthly "package" from Turbine. For an example where I had to make numerous additions, check [[Groundswell]]. That month, there was an update login screen as well as splash page, so that had to be created, also the site that hosted the Teaser images was all on the old Insider page which no longer exists (not even on the internet archives) so the content had to be inserted directly into the page. Also, during those times, each patch had teaser pics for the fansites as well as 4-5 "official" teasers, which there was no section for in the template. I believe that we can use the [[Groundswell]] event as the template for older patch content as I mentioned above, numerous additions had to be made. I was also unable to locate some of the "official" teasers for that month's patch and the 2 I was able to find were being hosted by maggie... I'm not sure if we should take those and host them here at the wiki or not, so I hot linked to the location I found them until a decision can be made. I'd love some feedback on this as I'd like to go through and start the process to archive all the old patch content. (at least in terms of official announcements and teasers). --[[User:Sanguis\|Sanguis]] 15:00, 27 March 2009 (CDT)
	: I'd been thinking about the teasers as well, I have a near complete collection of the teasers and think that for any sites that are no longer active we can host a local copy no problem, and for others we should archive a copy after they are more than a year old (but still link to the sites where they were first posted). We could add a section to the page template for code commonly used on older patch pages (and we can move some of the items like letter to the players down to it). I was in the process of doing the [[Patches\|announcement pages]] and got from the present back to October 2004 when I stopped to work on the template revisions, now that those are almost done I'd planned on going back to work on them also. I'll finish out 2004 and 2001 if you want to take 2003 and 2002? Also I noticed that you don't have sysop status, that was an oversight and you should have been added a while back, I'll fix that. --[[User:Tlosk\|Tlosk]] 16:53, 27 March 2009 (CDT)		: I'd been thinking about the teasers as well, I have a near complete collection of the teasers and think that for any sites that are no longer active we can host a local copy no problem, and for others we should archive a copy after they are more than a year old (but still link to the sites where they were first posted). We could add a section to the page template for code commonly used on older patch pages (and we can move some of the items like letter to the players down to it). I was in the process of doing the [[Patches\|announcement pages]] and got from the present back to October 2004 when I stopped to work on the template revisions, now that those are almost done I'd planned on going back to work on them also. I'll finish out 2004 and 2001 if you want to take 2003 and 2002? Also I noticed that you don't have sysop status, that was an oversight and you should have been added a while back, I'll fix that. --[[User:Tlosk\|Tlosk]] 16:53, 27 March 2009 (CDT)
			: There have been several forms of official patch notes that turbine/microsoft put out over the years. I don't think we necessarily need to make a template for older patches, we just need to make sure that each style used for certain time periods is the same across all patches in those times. As for old teaser images - in the past, I noticed that CoD and perhaps a few of the other fan sites would host all the other teaser images from other fan sites after the patch went live. I do not think there should be any issue with us hosting older images, especially if we only do 1+ year old images like Tlosk suggests. As for older turbine teasers that are no longer available, I'm fine with taking them from other sites. The wiki should not be excluded from hosting material that turbine freely provided to all the fansites/players just because the site started in fall 07. --[[User:An Adventurer\|An Adventurer]] 14:25, 28 March 2009 (CDT)

	== Current Links and Original Links ==		== Current Links and Original Links ==

imported>Tlosk: /* Old Patch Content (Numerous Sections) */

2009-03-27T21:53:16Z

Old Patch Content (Numerous Sections)

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	== Old Patch Content (Numerous Sections) ==		== Old Patch Content (Numerous Sections) ==
	For older patch content I'm finding that there are many sections which are no longer used in the current template, but are necessary for archiving content that was previously part of the monthly "package" from Turbine. For an example where I had to make numerous additions, check [[Groundswell]]. That month, there was an update login screen as well as splash page, so that had to be created, also the site that hosted the Teaser images was all on the old Insider page which no longer exists (not even on the internet archives) so the content had to be inserted directly into the page. Also, during those times, each patch had teaser pics for the fansites as well as 4-5 "official" teasers, which there was no section for in the template. I believe that we can use the [[Groundswell]] event as the template for older patch content as I mentioned above, numerous additions had to be made. I was also unable to locate some of the "official" teasers for that month's patch and the 2 I was able to find were being hosted by maggie... I'm not sure if we should take those and host them here at the wiki or not, so I hot linked to the location I found them until a decision can be made. I'd love some feedback on this as I'd like to go through and start the process to archive all the old patch content. (at least in terms of official announcements and teasers). --[[User:Sanguis\|Sanguis]] 15:00, 27 March 2009 (CDT)		For older patch content I'm finding that there are many sections which are no longer used in the current template, but are necessary for archiving content that was previously part of the monthly "package" from Turbine. For an example where I had to make numerous additions, check [[Groundswell]]. That month, there was an update login screen as well as splash page, so that had to be created, also the site that hosted the Teaser images was all on the old Insider page which no longer exists (not even on the internet archives) so the content had to be inserted directly into the page. Also, during those times, each patch had teaser pics for the fansites as well as 4-5 "official" teasers, which there was no section for in the template. I believe that we can use the [[Groundswell]] event as the template for older patch content as I mentioned above, numerous additions had to be made. I was also unable to locate some of the "official" teasers for that month's patch and the 2 I was able to find were being hosted by maggie... I'm not sure if we should take those and host them here at the wiki or not, so I hot linked to the location I found them until a decision can be made. I'd love some feedback on this as I'd like to go through and start the process to archive all the old patch content. (at least in terms of official announcements and teasers). --[[User:Sanguis\|Sanguis]] 15:00, 27 March 2009 (CDT)
			: I'd been thinking about the teasers as well, I have a near complete collection of the teasers and think that for any sites that are no longer active we can host a local copy no problem, and for others we should archive a copy after they are more than a year old (but still link to the sites where they were first posted). We could add a section to the page template for code commonly used on older patch pages (and we can move some of the items like letter to the players down to it). I was in the process of doing the [[Patches\|announcement pages]] and got from the present back to October 2004 when I stopped to work on the template revisions, now that those are almost done I'd planned on going back to work on them also. I'll finish out 2004 and 2001 if you want to take 2003 and 2002? Also I noticed that you don't have sysop status, that was an oversight and you should have been added a while back, I'll fix that. --[[User:Tlosk\|Tlosk]] 16:53, 27 March 2009 (CDT)

	== Current Links and Original Links ==		== Current Links and Original Links ==

imported>Zenodice: /* Old Patch Content (Numerous Sections) */

2009-03-27T20:01:50Z

Old Patch Content (Numerous Sections)

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	== Old Patch Content (Numerous Sections) ==		== Old Patch Content (Numerous Sections) ==
	For older patch content I'm finding that there are many sections which are no longer used in the current template, but are necessary for archiving content that was previously part of the monthly "package" from Turbine. For an example where I had to make numerous additions, check [[Groundswell]]. That month, there was an update login screen as well as splash page, so that had to be created, also the site that hosted the Teaser ~~etc~~ was all on the old Insider page which no longer exists (not even on the internet archives) so the content had to be inserted directly into the page. Also, during those times, each patch had teaser pics for the fansites as well as 4-5 "official" teasers, which there was no section for in the template~~. There is also the "dev notes" and the "letter to the players" which I had to create sections for~~. I believe that we can use the [[Groundswell]] event as the template for older patch content as I mentioned above, numerous additions had to be made. I was also unable to locate some of the "official" teasers for that month's patch and the 2 I was able to find were being hosted by maggie... I'm not sure if we should take those and host them here at the wiki or not, so I hot linked to the location I found them until a decision can be made. I'd love some feedback on this as I'd like to go through and start the process to archive all the old patch content. (at least in terms of official announcements and teasers). --[[User:Sanguis\|Sanguis]] 15:00, 27 March 2009 (CDT)		For older patch content I'm finding that there are many sections which are no longer used in the current template, but are necessary for archiving content that was previously part of the monthly "package" from Turbine. For an example where I had to make numerous additions, check [[Groundswell]]. That month, there was an update login screen as well as splash page, so that had to be created, also the site that hosted the Teaser images was all on the old Insider page which no longer exists (not even on the internet archives) so the content had to be inserted directly into the page. Also, during those times, each patch had teaser pics for the fansites as well as 4-5 "official" teasers, which there was no section for in the template. I believe that we can use the [[Groundswell]] event as the template for older patch content as I mentioned above, numerous additions had to be made. I was also unable to locate some of the "official" teasers for that month's patch and the 2 I was able to find were being hosted by maggie... I'm not sure if we should take those and host them here at the wiki or not, so I hot linked to the location I found them until a decision can be made. I'd love some feedback on this as I'd like to go through and start the process to archive all the old patch content. (at least in terms of official announcements and teasers). --[[User:Sanguis\|Sanguis]] 15:00, 27 March 2009 (CDT)


	== Current Links and Original Links ==		== Current Links and Original Links ==

imported>Zenodice: Tlosk / Adventurer / Atarax.... please see this and give me some feedback.

2009-03-27T20:00:03Z

Tlosk / Adventurer / Atarax.... please see this and give me some feedback.

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			== Old Patch Content (Numerous Sections) ==
			For older patch content I'm finding that there are many sections which are no longer used in the current template, but are necessary for archiving content that was previously part of the monthly "package" from Turbine. For an example where I had to make numerous additions, check [[Groundswell]]. That month, there was an update login screen as well as splash page, so that had to be created, also the site that hosted the Teaser etc was all on the old Insider page which no longer exists (not even on the internet archives) so the content had to be inserted directly into the page. Also, during those times, each patch had teaser pics for the fansites as well as 4-5 "official" teasers, which there was no section for in the template. There is also the "dev notes" and the "letter to the players" which I had to create sections for. I believe that we can use the [[Groundswell]] event as the template for older patch content as I mentioned above, numerous additions had to be made. I was also unable to locate some of the "official" teasers for that month's patch and the 2 I was able to find were being hosted by maggie... I'm not sure if we should take those and host them here at the wiki or not, so I hot linked to the location I found them until a decision can be made. I'd love some feedback on this as I'd like to go through and start the process to archive all the old patch content. (at least in terms of official announcements and teasers). --[[User:Sanguis\|Sanguis]] 15:00, 27 March 2009 (CDT)


	== Current Links and Original Links ==		== Current Links and Original Links ==
	For recent pages these links will be the same. For very old articles from the Microsoft Zone there will be no current link available (use internet archive if available). For pages from the 2003-2008 era the current link will be different from the original link due to the turbine site redesign in Aug 2008 (to find the current link for these older pages see the [http://ac.turbine.com/index.php?Itemid=68 Turbine Directory]). It is important to retain a record of the link when it was first published because most often that is how we can find it in the [http://web.archive.org Internet Archive].--[[User:Tlosk\|Tlosk]] 13:32, 31 December 2008 (CST)		For recent pages these links will be the same. For very old articles from the Microsoft Zone there will be no current link available (use internet archive if available). For pages from the 2003-2008 era the current link will be different from the original link due to the turbine site redesign in Aug 2008 (to find the current link for these older pages see the [http://ac.turbine.com/index.php?Itemid=68 Turbine Directory]). It is important to retain a record of the link when it was first published because most often that is how we can find it in the [http://web.archive.org Internet Archive].--[[User:Tlosk\|Tlosk]] 13:32, 31 December 2008 (CST)

imported>Tlosk: /* Current Links and Original Links */

2009-01-02T11:46:59Z

Current Links and Original Links

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	== Current Links and Original Links ==		== Current Links and Original Links ==
	For recent pages these links will be the same. For very old articles from the Microsoft Zone there will be no current link available. For pages from the 2003-2008 era the current link will be different from the original link due to the turbine site redesign in Aug 2008 (to find the current link for these older pages see the [http://ac.turbine.com/index.php?Itemid=68 Turbine Directory]). It is important to retain a record of the link when it was first published because most often that is how we can find it in the [http://web.archive.org Internet Archive].--[[User:Tlosk\|Tlosk]] 13:32, 31 December 2008 (CST)		For recent pages these links will be the same. For very old articles from the Microsoft Zone there will be no current link available (use internet archive if available). For pages from the 2003-2008 era the current link will be different from the original link due to the turbine site redesign in Aug 2008 (to find the current link for these older pages see the [http://ac.turbine.com/index.php?Itemid=68 Turbine Directory]). It is important to retain a record of the link when it was first published because most often that is how we can find it in the [http://web.archive.org Internet Archive].--[[User:Tlosk\|Tlosk]] 13:32, 31 December 2008 (CST)

	== Announcements Page Discussion ==		== Announcements Page Discussion ==

imported>Tlosk: /* Current Links and Original Links */

2008-12-31T19:32:22Z

Current Links and Original Links

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	== Current Links and Original Links ==		== Current Links and Original Links ==
	For recent pages these links will be the same. For very old articles from the Microsoft Zone there will be no current link available. For pages from the 2003-2008 era the current link will be different from the original link due to the turbine site redesign in Aug 2008 (to find the current link for these older pages see the [http://ac.turbine.com/index.php?Itemid=68 Turbine Directory]). It is important to retain a record of the link when it was first published because most often that is how we can find it in the [http://web.archive.org Internet Archive].		For recent pages these links will be the same. For very old articles from the Microsoft Zone there will be no current link available. For pages from the 2003-2008 era the current link will be different from the original link due to the turbine site redesign in Aug 2008 (to find the current link for these older pages see the [http://ac.turbine.com/index.php?Itemid=68 Turbine Directory]). It is important to retain a record of the link when it was first published because most often that is how we can find it in the [http://web.archive.org Internet Archive].--[[User:Tlosk\|Tlosk]] 13:32, 31 December 2008 (CST)

	== Announcements Page Discussion ==		== Announcements Page Discussion ==

imported>Tlosk at 19:28, 31 December 2008

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	== Current Links and Original Links ==		== Current Links and Original Links ==
	For recent pages these links will be the same. For very old articles from the Microsoft Zone there will be no current link available. For pages from the 2003-2008 era the current link will be different from the original link due to the turbine site redesign in Aug 2008 (to find the current link for these older pages see the [http://ac.turbine.com/index.php?Itemid=68 Turbine Directory]. It is important to retain a record of the link when it was first published because most often that is how we can find it in the [http://web.archive.org Internet Archive].		For recent pages these links will be the same. For very old articles from the Microsoft Zone there will be no current link available. For pages from the 2003-2008 era the current link will be different from the original link due to the turbine site redesign in Aug 2008 (to find the current link for these older pages see the [http://ac.turbine.com/index.php?Itemid=68 Turbine Directory]). It is important to retain a record of the link when it was first published because most often that is how we can find it in the [http://web.archive.org Internet Archive].

	== Announcements Page Discussion ==		== Announcements Page Discussion ==

imported>Tlosk: /* Current Links and Original Links */

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Current Links and Original Links

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	== Current Links and Original Links ==		== Current Links and Original Links ==
	For recent pages these links will be the same. For very old articles from the Microsoft Zone there will be no current link available. For pages from the 2003-2008 era the current link will be different from the original link due to the turbine site redesign in Aug 2008. It is important to retain a record of the link when it was first published because most often that is how we can find it in the [http://web.archive.org Internet Archive].		For recent pages these links will be the same. For very old articles from the Microsoft Zone there will be no current link available. For pages from the 2003-2008 era the current link will be different from the original link due to the turbine site redesign in Aug 2008 (to find the current link for these older pages see the [http://ac.turbine.com/index.php?Itemid=68 Turbine Directory]. It is important to retain a record of the link when it was first published because most often that is how we can find it in the [http://web.archive.org Internet Archive].

	== Announcements Page Discussion ==		== Announcements Page Discussion ==

imported>Tlosk at 19:26, 31 December 2008

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			== Current Links and Original Links ==
			For recent pages these links will be the same. For very old articles from the Microsoft Zone there will be no current link available. For pages from the 2003-2008 era the current link will be different from the original link due to the turbine site redesign in Aug 2008. It is important to retain a record of the link when it was first published because most often that is how we can find it in the [http://web.archive.org Internet Archive].

			== Announcements Page Discussion ==
	'''''From the [[Talk:ACC Wiki Home]] page:		'''''From the [[Talk:ACC Wiki Home]] page:

imported>Tlosk: /* Suggestion for turbine articles */

2008-12-31T19:11:43Z

Suggestion for turbine articles

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	::: [[Announcements - 2008/12 - Sins of the Fathers]] is fairly complete now. I added a navigation template similar to that used on patch pages, crosslinked the announcements and patch pages with each other at the top, and added an announcements column to the all patches page. For the old announcements section on the patch page let's retain the "Section - Link" structure and have the link be to wherever the current location is at, if available. Then include an Original Link (when the patch first went live, for historical and archive searching purposes) and a link to our archived version on the respective announcements page. I'll work on framing up the template page next and we can probably move the discussion to [[Talk:Patch Announcements Template]] for improvements and additions before we finalize this. --[[User:Tlosk\|Tlosk]] 11:12, 10 December 2008 (CST)		::: [[Announcements - 2008/12 - Sins of the Fathers]] is fairly complete now. I added a navigation template similar to that used on patch pages, crosslinked the announcements and patch pages with each other at the top, and added an announcements column to the all patches page. For the old announcements section on the patch page let's retain the "Section - Link" structure and have the link be to wherever the current location is at, if available. Then include an Original Link (when the patch first went live, for historical and archive searching purposes) and a link to our archived version on the respective announcements page. I'll work on framing up the template page next and we can probably move the discussion to [[Talk:Patch Announcements Template]] for improvements and additions before we finalize this. --[[User:Tlosk\|Tlosk]] 11:12, 10 December 2008 (CST)

			:::: Now that we've had the patch and announcements pages up for a few weeks and we've tweaked them I'm adjusting the templates and will begin on older patches. --[[User:Tlosk\|Tlosk]] 13:11, 31 December 2008 (CST)

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